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Whoe will You vote for?
McCain
30%
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Obama
61%
 61%  [ 8 ]
I don't vote!
7%
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Total Votes : 13

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Obama or McCain? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Surprised no ones done this yet. Who will YOU vote for?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

SERIOUSLY, i was thinking about this last night and why no one has made a topic about it. and then i forgot


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:16 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I am hands down, 100% voting for Barack Obama. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 7:36 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:41 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

who the hell is mccain?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ehh, don't really care. I hope you guys aren't all heavy into the president stuff, and feel the need to give me the..."It's your president, blah blah...if it wasn't for him, blah blah". Piss off. Don't really care for either of 'em. I don't really pay much attention to the president stuff. I'm not gonna like either of 'em. They're both gonna make stupid dumbass decisions, whether people agree or not. So, fuck 'em.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

the girl wrote:
Obama.
this is not specifically directed toward you, but just because i know you are wanting to start your own little business... did you know that obama wants to do away with entrepreneurship???

for the other obama fans..
are you not aware of him wanting to raise the shit out of taxes?? taking more money from people who work their asses off and then distributing it back to people who do not work at all. a real robin hood you say? not. *robin hood* didn't steal from the rich, he stole from the taxers themselves.

and why would you want a man for president who is against our own 2nd ammendment????? he is a marxist!


... let's get a debate going here. this topic is serious

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:18 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

here's an interesting video backing up kary's comment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNuqV7N_bj0

Obama says "It's not that I want to punish your success.. I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you, that they have a chance for success too. I think that when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

socialism is just around the corner....
he didn't say this to a CEO, not a Forbes 500 person... but a fucking PLUMBER.
wakeeee up people.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:34 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

exactly. why would you want to bust your ass for your money only for everything to be equal, but by equal i mean the money is then given to people who don't do shit to earn what they are GIVEN. that isn't equal at all. equal is what a REPUBLICAN president did by giving blacks the right to vote. giving women the right to vote. equal is NOT stealing from people who earn what they worked for only for it to be given to people who sit around waiting for shit to be handed to them.

he is FOR Partial Birth Abortion. and for anyone who is not familiar with this, partial birth abortion is 5 steps:
1. guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps
2. the baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal
(remember, this baby is still alive)
3. the abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head
4. the abortionist inserts scissors into the baby's skull. the scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole
5. the scissors are removed and a suction catheter is insertered. the baby's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. the dead baby is then removed

there is a reason obama opposed the parental notification law. i mean, think about it.. you can't give a child asprin without consent from a parent, but that same child can have an abortion without parent notification? give me a fuckin break.



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who the hell is mccain?

i hope you are not brainwashed by this maniac. of all people.. have you not read anything from his books???? he said, AND QUOTE "i will stand with the muslims should the political wins shift in an ugly direction." he is known for being FRIENDS WITH TERRORISTS, for fuck sake!

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McCain pushed and sponsored legislation (McCain-Kennedy) that would have allowed 12 million+ illegal immigrants to stay in this country ahead of those who have followed the law and would have allowed those same illegal immigrants to collect Social Security...So I guess people who ILLEGALLY enter the country should be rewarded but people who "sit on their butts and don't work for it" shouldn't? Many people who get Social Security and welfare CAN NOT get jobs for physical/medical reasons. Immigrants who LEGALLY come to the United States would see less "rights" than those who smuggled/dug/swam their way in. ...GREAT IDEA!

McCain voted twice against Pres. Bush's tax cuts that have helped many lower and middle income families...I guess Obama isn't the only one who doesn't want to lower taxes huh?

McCain pushed and sponsored legislation (McCain-Feingold) that squelched the voice of Americans and is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment. Who needs free speech? Constitution? What constitution?!

McCain has co-sponsored ill conceived legislation that would boost gasoline prices by more than half a dollar a gallon. And he supports radical global warming measures that would significantly disadvantage the U.S.

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to beat Ted Kennedy and Hilary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had 4 years to work with.

there is a reason planned parenthood gives him a 100% rating

there is a reason the homosexual community supports him

there is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, and Hamas love him

there is a reason he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme coat

there is a reason he voted "no" to confirming Justices Roberts and Alito; two judges who are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion.. the same practice Obama wanted to continue.

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well one thing's for sure...both of them have different views on the iraq/afgan situation

Obama didn't back the surge, yet admitted it worked
Obama wants a time frame on pulling the troops out(he said within 6-10 months)...
while McCain, says that by creating "timeframes" and leaving too early, we give the terrorists and our enemies an advantage
McCain also believes that defeat would in the end be very costly for us

so both sides have valid points.. no one wants our troops there

but who knows the situation going on over there better than the troops themselves? no one

well.. the military was recently polled and our ACTIVE-DUTY service men and women said that if asked to vote for the president today... 68% said they would vote for McCain

look at the chart below though.. it breaks it down pretty interesting:



it should come as no surprise, really..
McCain has yearsss of military and political experience
Obama has never served in the military and has a VERY short voting record that scares a lot of active people in our military

so even the military has made it pretty clear that they want McCain leading them
do you think Obama would be a better leader for our military?

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i hope you are not brainwashed by this maniac. of all people.. have you not read anything from his books???? he said, AND QUOTE "i will stand with the muslims should the political wins shift in an ugly direction." he is known for being FRIENDS WITH TERRORISTS, for fuck sake!


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Obama... who said he had NO ties or even cares to know who Ayers was... lied. (big shocker there)

here's a pic of Obama praising Ayers' book:



next to his lovely smiling pic of himself.. then-state senator Obama called Ayers' book, "A Kind and Just Parent: Children of the Juvenile Court," a "searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair."

the book.. which talks about life at the Chicago Juvenile Court prison school.. mentions Obama by name on page 82 when it describes chicago's hyde park neighboorhood:
"Our neighbors include Muhammad Ali, former mayor Eugene Sawyer, poets Gwendolyn Brooks and Elizabeth Alexander, and writer Barack Obama. Minister Louis Farrakhan lives a block from our home and adds, we think, a unique dimension to the idea of 'safe neighborhood watch': the Fruit of Islam, his security force, has an eye on things twenty-four-hours a day."

ohh ouchh. so what's he trying to hide that he has to lie about? usually people lie cuz they're covering something up, right? what's he covering up??

a month before that even appeared, on nov 20, 1997.. michelle obama, the dean of student services and director of the university community service center.. held a panel at the U of chicago that featured both Obama and Ayers:
"Ayers will be joined by Sen. Barack Obama, Senior Lecturer in the Law School, who is working to combat legislation that would put more juvenile offenders into the adult system," the University of Chicago Chronicle reported on Nov. 6, 1997.

Obama was criticized for not elaborating on his relationship with Ayers and for claiming to have no clue Ayers was a co-founder of the wesather underground... which claimed resonsibility for bombing the pentagon, us capitol, and a new york supreme court justice's home in the 60s

the Obama campaign said that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers and the weather underground was active and has had no link to their activities. yet he wasn't 8 in 1997... obviously

Ayers said he has NO REGRETS about his participation in the domestic terror group

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